Oh my god when will you people shut the fuck up about this

When you take responsibility for contributing to the fear many of us are feeling. Many of us have been forced to relocate or even flee the country because the government wants us dead. You essentially decided that one genocide wasn't enough, and when shit really hits the fan, you better be on the fucking front lines I have the same words for DNC leadership

I take responsibility but still think it was the correct choice not to vote for Kamala. This is because from my perspective the Democratic party relied on its voters usung harm reduction strategies in order to run candidates that don't make anything better for regular people in the long run, other than some tiny little concessions as tribute. Don't think there can't be worse presidents than Trump. Don't think it can't get worse here. Back when Bush was elected people thought he was the pinnacle too. And before that people thought that about Reagan. But people like *YOU* kept voting for the lesser evil, and the Democrats, who are on the side of billionaires just like every other politician, didn't really make things better, kept cooperating with Republicans, and together they laid the groundwork that allowed Trump to be elected. If that pattern keeps up, one day (soon) we will have something worse than Trump. I understand the current situation is worse than the situation would be if Kamala had won, but we have to draw the line before it gets even worse. The way it's been going, the country was on an oscillating trajectory with a downward trend. Its shortsighted to only consider 4 years ahead. You're thinking about yourself for the next couple years, I'm thinking about all the future generations after us for decades. Anyways, I took responsibility, so please do your part and downvote Kamalaposts now

>You're thinking about yourself for the next couple years, How dare I think about my own *desire to not starve to death in a repurposed K-Mart*

Its just confusing because I'm told I should have voted for Kamala because:

1. I need to think about more people than myself
2. Sometimes we need to pick a lesser evil for the practical benefit of more people
3. I need to make personal and ideological sacrifices for the greater good
4. I need to accept that hard choices have to be made and be willing to take real action even if it inconveniences me
5. I can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good

But from my perspective, that's exactly what I AM doing, in fact to an even greater extent, by not voting for Kamala. And when I bring this up, suddenly your rebuttal is that actually I should be picking.... What's best for me personally in the next couple of years?

I knew Trump winning would mean disaster for me, my family, my friends. But I felt like Kamala winning would just buy us a few more years of relative peace (at the continued expense of exploiting much of the rest of the world), only to then land us with the same ultimatum ,but with higher stakes, four years later. So I:

1. Thought about more people than myself, my friends, my family. I also thought about their kids, and people all over the world, and about millions of people who haven't even been born yet but one day will grow up under the same horrible America that we'll still have even if progressives manage to undo the last 20 years of crazy.
2. Picked a lesser evil (Trump now) over a greater evil (another century of stable American evil at home and abroad) for the practical benefit of more people (future people and young people)
3. Made personal sacrifices (I need to plan to leave the country) and ideological sacrifices (I don't like picking lesser evils! I wish I could only ever pick good things!)
4. Accepted hard choices (not voting for Kamala) and was willing to take real action (selling all my stuff, boycotting corporations, giving up a hundred comforts, and preparing to leave the country)
5. Didn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good: Of course not voting for Kamala would ideally not be so catastrophic. Ideally vote boycotting would have started decades ago. But oh well, we can't have things be perfect, so I guess starting the change now, messy and painful as it is for me today, will be good for future generations after me

I hate Kamala, I think she's a terrible candidate and don't disagree that she would've just bought us more time. But it's easier to fight back with a persistent cold than with supertuberculosis. Because Trump got elected, my partner and I uprooted our lives, said goodbye to a massive community of people, gave up multiple career prospects, and moved to another country. I'm a trans latina immigrant in a gay relationship, so enemy of the state #1. The battle isn't over either as we're now dealing with immigration. I'm not legally allowed to work so I'm just living off savings right now, and effectively starting from 0. I still worry about my friends back home, many of which are also trans immigrants but who lack the opportunity to move, who are now scrambling to stockpile meds and fighting daily to continue living. I've had to talk friends down from suicide. I have never cried as much as I have in the last year. And I'm just one person. So thank you for that, your direct lack of action contributed to it. I hope your horse was worth the blood on your hands. You're no better than the other centrists eager to throw us under the bus while calling it "progress"

It was, you're welcome. Now go be selfish somewhere else Edit: (If its not obvious, I don't mean this, but figured I'd show you what its like for someone to disregard 90% of your post and call you selfish when you explicitly made an argument for why you're not) You can insult me all you want, but I listed out plenty of reasons for why *you're* the one sacrificing others in order to sit on your high horse of having voted for Kamala. But you fall back to insults because you can't actually address my points. You are selfishly choosing the well-being of your immediate social group over millions of people in the present and future.