@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com
2026-08-03 12:40 UTC
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@muenchnerin@sueden.social 2026-08-03 13:29
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social As a tourist: If you don't live in the Netherlands, OV Fiets is a rather complicated option. And: Not available in all parts of the country (e.g. not in at least parts of Friesland).
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@Alper_Celik@infosec.exchange 2026-08-03 13:01
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social i would say it is still comicly efficient and scalable compared to cars but that is beating a dead horse at that point. but i guess if you are travelling espicaily on rush hours using bike renting apps like lime or keeping a bike in a bike park (like how you did in your how i commute video) would be more viable rather than trying to get into the train that is packed full with bicycle
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@ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.social 2026-08-03 13:00
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com I'd like to add OV Fiets availability to visitors to that list (without having to get OV cards with money locked in) @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social
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@GemNico@mastodon.social 2026-08-03 13:03
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social I only seem to take bike on NS 1-2x a year. its a bit of a hassle, like you said. unfortunately the oVfiets doesn’t work for me, the bikes are all tall-framed.
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@mmeent_pg@fosstodon.org 2026-08-03 13:04
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social My dad used to commute to work by bike and train, using a foldable bike. I think that still works fine, such bikes can be treated as any carry-on luggage. As for elevator time: Shouldn't all stations that need elevators also have a bike gutter by the stairs? I do agree there should be more OV Fiets, but I also think that taking a bike with you (in a safe manner) shouldn't require you to take the elevator.
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@Amiek@glammr.us 2026-08-03 13:10
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social the advantage of taking your own bike on a train, is that you can cycle parts of the route and them continue by train. Sometimes I just cycle till rush hour is over and then I continue my travels by train. OV fiets is okay if you stay local to one train station.
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@bonno@mastodon-belgium.be 2026-08-03 13:28
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social I'd rather they do both
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@f09fa681@digitalcourage.social 2026-08-03 13:29
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social I think there must be room for both. While I agree that the space need is significant and that it doesn't scale particularly well, there are many legitimate scenarios, like having an accident on a bike tour, staying flexible, taking parts of a tour by bike, etc. and then having to continue by train. And it's not only recreational either. There are many reasons on why rental bikes cannot fulfil all the needs. That being said, taking your own bike across Europe is so annoying in practice due to ticketing and reservation requirements, that I can recommend getting a folding bicycle as one option to have the cake and eat it, too.
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@BlackDragon@hsnl.social 2026-08-03 13:55
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social The fact that you need to return the OV-fiets to the same station (atleast if you don't want to pay extra for relocation) makes it a pain in the ass to use. I'd rather see a model in cities like the red bikes/velo in Antwerpen. Where you can just take a bike from fixed stands that are spread throughout the city and where you can drop it off at another stand and be done with it. That way you can bike a bit, abandon the bike at a random stand, and continue the journey with another mode of transport.
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@danbrotherston@types.pl 2026-08-03 15:23
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social I'd use OV fiets if it was feasible, but as you say, having no kids seat (not to mention, single gear, no electric assist is going to be a bit of a challenge int he Limburg hills) makes it pretty much not an option for many like myself. But I'm not sure OV-fiets would actually improve things. I mean, they'd be more convenient for me, and probably lots of other people, but I don't think it would reduce the number of bikes on the train, since most were clearly touring or racing bikes with people who wouldn't want a shared bike. I think the problems I encountered are already a strong enough deterrence to anyone who very dedicated to have their own personal bike with them. The scalability can be improved with dedicated bicycle train cars. But maybe latent demand would still end up swamping this. The elevators were also a bit of a challenge, we also missed one train because transferring platforms took too long. But overall, that was much less of a problem than the trains.
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@Lunaphied@provably.online 2026-08-03 16:29
@danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social @notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com a huge issue imo is cost. If you aren't just taking an occasional journey but commuting to work, though it seems the price might've lowered slightly? Still that's an extra €100 a month out of pocket if you're commuting daily. Instead everyone that does that seems to clog the train up with folding bikes which usually is not a problem but those don't work for everyone
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@rrustema020@mastodon.nl 2026-08-05 06:35
@notjustbikes@social.notjustbikes.com @danbrotherston@types.pl @BicycleDutch@mastodon.social Instead of elevators each platform should have a ramp. For major stations I think of a prefab concrete ramp that gets buried under the tracks and another that connects to it and gets buried in the platform. Building it would not have to interrupt the regular schedule on that track for more than one night. It is a bit of an investment initially but afterwards it doesn't need the maintenance of an elevator. No moving parts.