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@whathappened@c.im
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"After hundreds of millennia in which all humans had direct access to the commons, it took only a few centuries... to cut off the vast majority of people on Earth from direct access to the means of economic production and therefore to rob them of the power to say no. It took only a few generations to convince most people that this situation was natural and inevitable. That false lesson needs to be unlearned." - Karl Widerquist and Grant S. McCall

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Joined November 03, 2024
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How did we get here? @whathappened@c.im
· 2mo ago
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@Hex@kolektiva.social Here are some references to support what you're saying: https://c.im/@whathappened/113431391552749242
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@HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social on the enclosure of our roads and car dependency as capitalist rent: https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110123111646315678 (See also: What We Lost When Cars Won Americans once feared cars. Now we can’t imagine life without them. https://grist.org/culture/cars-crashes-books-culture/ for more horrifying details of car culture see this article which fleshes out the statistics very well though it falls short by only dealing with superficial causes and solutions: We Should Be Building Cities for People, Not Cars https://devonzuegel.com/post/we-should-be-building-cities-for-people-not-cars 12/30
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@Huntn00@mastodon.world If you truly recognize what a "pervasive system" capitalism is, then it should also be understandable why people who are involuntarily embedded in that system from birth are deeply conditioned and distorted by it, and their actions are manipulated by coercion, even if they individually recognize that something is wrong. Capitalism (and the foundations it is built on such as state, patriarchy, and hierarchy in general) are to blame, not human nature itself. To view the blindness and self-centeredness of people trapped in this system as essential human nature is like describing a circus elephant riding a tricycle as an elephant's natural behavior. @CassandraVert@indieweb.social @LordCaramac@discordian.social @gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot
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@pip@infosec.exchange @DGI@graeber.social "...capitalism seems to have provided some major benefits historically - vaccines, electricity, etc." The key word here is "seems", and this is purely the result of capitalist propaganda. There is no real reason to believe that this is true.
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@Huntn00@mastodon.world It's about power, not about human nature. Technology enabled the concentration of power such that a very tiny minority could impose their will on the rest of humanity. That's not the same thing as the species getting "itself in trouble". Hell, a lot of it was random chance. Things might have played out differently if for example there was some virus endemic to the "new world" that indigenous people were immune to and which stopped the colonialists. Unfortunately it didn't happen like that. @gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green @LordCaramac@discordian.social @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot
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@nickofnz No Kings. No Presidents. No Billionaires. No Borders.
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@Funcan@mastodon.social Your response reflects a very limited caricature of human nature that frames it as the cause of our current nightmarish predicament, and is used as an excuse for the oppressive, violent and coercive power structures and the disingenuous, toxic concepts behind them that are the actual cause. It's like watching a circus elephant riding a tricycle and describing that as an elephant's natural behavior. It was in fact the characteristics of a very small and specific group of humans who happened to end up with the power (and happenstance, such as spreading diseases) to decimate and oppress/enslave/exploit other cultures, that led to where we are now. Those other cultures demonstrated (and still do to some extent) the vast potential of creativity, adaptability, cooperation, and nature-friendliness of real human nature throughout the planet and hundreds of millennia before the imaginary but all-powerful god Capital took over. Here are some links I recommend for a broader perspective on human nature and our cultural evolution/history: Appendix 5: More discoveries challenging conventional ideas about human cultural evolution https://c.im/@whathappened/113432448395719328 Appendix 2: Human Nature https://c.im/@whathappened/113432402045257286 Full thread: How Did We Get Here? https://c.im/@whathappened/113427830249968598 @DGI@graeber.social
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How did we get here?: "Appendix 5: More discoveries challenging conventi…" - C.IM

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@Huntn00@mastodon.world

"Being a good steward of this Earth has not been one of our species strong suits, because of lack of vision."

I disagree. The state we're in now (pun recognized and accepted) is the exception. Otherwise our species has demonstrated quite the opposite:

https://c.im/@whathappened/113431238520344807

https://c.im/@whathappened/113431255161180652

https://c.im/@whathappened/113432448395719328

see also:

  • Indigenous cultural practices are a climate solution, report finds - Indigenous lands are recognized as crucial for climate mitigation and resilience. New research shows their health is a direct result of the people who inhabit and steward them. https://grist.org/indigenous/indigenous-cultural-practices-are-a-climate-solution-report-finds/

@LordCaramac@discordian.social @gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green @LaChasseuse@mastodon.scot

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Looking further back we see that humans all over the globe have been actively managing our environment successfully and sustainably for many millennia, which reveals falsehoods embedded in the Lockean (white, European, patriarchal) view of humanity, history and land use. From the research article "People have shaped most of terrestrial nature for at least 12,000 years": "The current biodiversity crisis is often depicted as a struggle to preserve untouched habitats. Here, we combine global maps of human populations and land use over the past 12,000 y with current biodiversity data to show that nearly three quarters of terrestrial nature has long been shaped by diverse histories of human habitation and use by Indigenous and traditional peoples. With rare exceptions, current biodiversity losses are caused not by human conversion or degradation of untouched ecosystems, but rather by the appropriation, colonization, and intensification of use in lands inhabited and used by prior societies. Global land use history confirms that empowering the environmental stewardship of Indigenous peoples and local communities will be critical to conserving biodiversity across the planet. "Archaeological and paleoecological evidence shows that by 10,000 BCE, all human societies employed varying degrees of ecologically transformative land use practices, including burning, hunting, species propagation, domestication, cultivation, and others that have left long-term legacies across the terrestrial biosphere. Yet, a lingering paradigm among natural scientists, conservationists, and policymakers is that human transformation of terrestrial nature is mostly recent and inherently destructive. Here, we use the most up-to-date, spatially explicit global reconstruction of historical human populations and land use to show that this paradigm is likely wrong. Even 12,000 y ago, nearly three quarters of Earth s land was inhabited and therefore shaped by human societies, including more than 95% of temperate and 90% of tropical woodlands. Lands now characterized as "natural," "intact," and "wild" generally exhibit long histories of use, as do protected areas and Indigenous lands, and current global patterns of vertebrate species richness and key biodiversity areas are more strongly associated with past patterns of land use than with present ones in regional landscapes now characterized as natural. The current biodiversity crisis can seldom be explained by the loss of uninhabited wildlands, resulting instead from the appropriation, colonization, and intensifying use of the biodiverse cultural landscapes long shaped and sustained by prior societies. Recognizing this deep cultural connection with biodiversity will therefore be essential to resolve the crisis." https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2023483118 Those in power have been telling us that *we* (people in general or "human nature") are the problem. Popular narratives insist that humans and agriculture of any kind are intrinsically and inevitably destructive to the biosphere. The actual evidence tells us otherwise: @HeavenlyPossum@kolektiva.social on "Tells" (archeology): "And here these farmers sat, year after year, millennia after millennia, in one place. These were people working with the same Neolithic agricultural package, growing the same sorts of wheat and raising the same sorts of sheep, in the fields around their tells. They did not die out. They did not exhaust their soils to extinction. Many of them — especially the tells in the Danube Basin that constitute “Old Europe” — developed no states, as some people believe is inevitable from wheat cultivation. If they did leave, they left for reasons unrelated to the success of their way of life. But, as I noted, some of these tells are still inhabited, like the central citadel of Aleppo in Syria." https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/113367947919067023 On Navajo Lands, Ancient Ways Are Restoring the Parched Earth https://e360.yale.edu/features/navajo-natural-infrastructure-dryland-streams Traditional protection proves more successful for clams in American Samoa https://news.mongabay.com/2026/03/traditional-protection-proves-more-successful-for-clams-in-american-samoa/ The great abandonment: what happens to the natural world when people disappear? -Across the globe, vast swathes of land are being left to be reclaimed by nature. To see what could be coming, look to Bulgaria- Many of the landscapes people now tend to think of as untouched, from the savanna lands of equatorial Africa to the deep Amazon rainforest, have already been deeply transformed by human presence. “The essential role that people play in ecology is the critical thing, and it’s been ignored,” Ellis says. “The most biodiverse places left on Earth – this is almost universally true – have Indigenous people in them. Why? Well, they conserve a lot of that biodiversity and actually produce it. They maintain that heterogeneous landscape.” https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/nov/28/great-abandonment-what-happens-natural-world-people-disappear-bulgaria (continued...) 9a/30
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(continued) Milpas Based on the agronomy of the Maya and of other Mesoamerican peoples, the milpa system is used to produce crops of maize, beans, and squash without employing artificial pesticides and artificial fertilizers... A milpa is a field, usually but not always recently cleared, in which farmers plant a dozen crops at once including maize, avocados, multiple varieties of squash and bean, melon, tomatoes, chilis, sweet potato, jícama, amaranth, and mucuna ... Milpa crops are nutritional

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