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Insulating oneself from American internet platforms may be a lofty goal, unfortunately the Russian version of the internet isn't much better. China did a much better job and now they don't have vaccine deniers, they didn't suffer from people refusing to wear facemasks, and they aren't about to have a far right coup
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>free of association
Funny how your communities have no problem accommodating western libs without any anti-imperialist ideas or rethoric. You choosing to associate with them instead of with actual socialists and banning us immediately even for upvoting a comment shows very well whose side you stand on.
>You try to force the human condition into something you think you can quantify and control and call that science?
No, I approach history, sociology and economy as sciences instead of as vibes-based. I support the system that historically statistically fed the children, not the one that claims in theory it can feed the children without having prisons.
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Well, they're a mod, they take the harshest action a mod can take which is banning, and they do this for literally upvoting a comment
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Hey, I'm not the one crying authoritarianism here, I'm just exposing the hypocrisy
Bernie must be a tankie according to most here
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And here we go with the cold-war propaganda :D called you from the first second.
Anarchism in Spain led to many, many more gays in concentration camps and murdered than in prisons in the former USSR because anarchism cannot historically defeat fascism! That's the authoritarianism you should be focusing on, especially in 2026 as we see the rise of fascism once again
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>authoritarianism is when the government
Incredibly uneducated again. Authority is not only when government. Your boss dictating what you do under threat of unemployment is a strong form of authority prevalent in modern society that didn't exist in the so-called "authoritarian socialist" governments.
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Whataboutism is changing the topic, mate, I'm giving the reasons why China is actuslly not a capitalist country, it's a mixed socialist economy.
>China has fully embraced it
Weird, then why are there no fascist parties in China like in the capitalist west? Why was China able to lift 800mn people from poverty in 30 years? Why has China become the manufacturer of 95% of photovoltaic modules in the planet against the interests of the capitalist fossil fuel lobby? Why has China not engaged for 50+ years in wars like the US, EU and Russia? Why does China not engage in imperialist extraction and plunder from the global south like capitalist countries? Fucks sake, ask Chinese people in which system they live. You can also ask Laotians, Vietnamese, Cubans...
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>If anarchism is to blame for a different system that came after it than Marxist-Leninism is to blame for the capitalist shithole that is Russia today
Literally yes, we Marxist leninists study history in order to prevent the same mistakes. That's why we have entire books devoted to the topic such as "Socialism Betrayed" analyzing the history and mistakes of the socialists in the USSR that led to its dissolution. Imagine engaging in honest criticism of your own ideology.
Still, Marxist Leninism brought 70 years of development and human rights to a former absolutist monarchy and saved its inhabitants from extermination at the hands of Nazism, and it still survives in many countries like Cuba, Vietnam, Laos or freaking China.
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France got liberated thanks to the Soviets too, we're talking all of Europe here.
In the rest of places, as I said, replacing it by a system with full free healthcare, worker's rights, respect of minorities and their languages and cultures, free education to the highest level, anti-imperialism and industrial development and self-reliance. The dismantling of the Eastern Block is the biggest demographic catastrophe in Europe since WW2.
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Someone who sees through cold-war anticommunist propaganda and defends the anti-imperialist and massively progressive Actually Existing Socialist states (USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam...) instead of belonging to the "compatible left" that doesn't actually have a history of successful struggle against capitalism and imperialism.
People will be called tankies for defending the socialist figures and projects which get vilified in western discourse precisely because of their success against capitalism and fascism (Fidel, Lenin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh), whereas anticommunists will only praise historical figures and projects who failed (Allende, Rojavas, Spanish anarchists) because their metric is not actual improvements to quality of life of people but ideological purity.
Tankie started out as a pejorative word against communists with the attempt to associate them with militarism. Notice how other leftists don't call liberals "dronies" for supporting Obama despite the drone attacks on civilians in the middle east, don't call fascists or Nazis "campies" despite the extensive usage of concentration camps, and don't call capitalists "colonies" despite the widespread colonialism, such violent terms are only reserved to socialists. I consider myself a communist and I reclaim the label "tankie", since it was actually Soviet tanks (T-34s mainly) which destroyed Nazism and saved hundreds of millions of lives in Europe from extermination.
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Please go through my comment and tell me which part of it is a lie, all information is well-sourced from Wikipedia. You're just proving you haven't done even the most cursory reading on the topic beyond reddit comments.
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To be fair, there was excess repression during the late 1930s in the USSR, but people massively inflate the numbers and won't ever tell that only about 1/4 of prisoners in the prison system (whose acronym was GULAG) were actually politically motivated. People also don't understand that the harsh conditions in Soviet prisons were due to a Soviet-wide famine caused by the Nazi aggression:
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Imagine living in borderline fascist countries and believing that the fascist-free Chinese model is worse by any metric.
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>a mod on a forum has no real meaningful power over anything that matters
Fully agreed, just portraying their hypocrisy.
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Anti imperialism? How did they become the largest country on earth?
Imperialism is not when big country, believe it or not. Imperialism is about having peripheral colonies from which you extract raw materials and where the citizens have fewer rights, and a core which benefits from the labor of the rest of the periphery. The USSR engaged in the opposite by providing raw materials and energy inputs to the Eastern-Block countries at subsidized prices precisely with the intention of helping them industrialize and develop. As an example, the GDP per capita of Estonia was 20% higher than that of the Russian republic during the USSR.
Respect of minorities?
Yes. Ukraine got its borders and political representation for the first time in history during Soviet rule. You may be surprised to find that Rosa Luxembourg argued against this, there are some fun letters between her and Lenin where the latter argued in favour of supporting the national identity of Ukrainians. This was carried out as soon as the revolution took place, in the Korenizatsiya policy of boosting ethnic minorities once oppressed by the Russian empire. You may be surprised to learn that Stalin was the commissar for nationalities when the Russian Revolution happened. The communists elected a Georgian leader in 1925, unthinkable just 10 years prior.
All republics in the USSR had the right to determine their own languages, and people had a right to an education in these languages up to university level (not always included). The majority of books and newspapers printed in areas with national languages different to Russian were in said languages (Ukrainian, Kazakh, Armenian, Georgian, Estonian...). You can get informed about this in Albert Szymanski's "human rights in the Soviet Union". There were big mistakes during a few years due to hysteria against Nazism and Japanese invasion (see deportations of Crimean Tatars and Koreans), but other than that the USSR has a mostly impeccable record in this regard. Compare that to France murdering 1 million Algerians in the 1960s in the Algerian war of independence, or with Occitan language becoming almost extint in the 20th century.
Industrial development? Yes, current Russia
The USSR was at the time the second largest economy in the world, idk why you compare it with modern capitalist Russia, of course capitalism destroyed the progress achieved by socialists.
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I know, I know you from hexbear (this is my alt), I just try to engage with the highest level of intellectual honesty possible when I'm in lib instances because people have the idea that there's no honest analysis of the repressions within ML circles when it's exactly the opposite way.
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How is Utopian communist further left? A non-realizable ideology isn't left, left is one which actually has political power and is based on material reality, because it's the one which ends up achieving results.
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Everything can be true when you make shit up! :)
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You could be a fan of both, like me! Soviets made absolute beauties, and importantly, they made them cheap and mass produced. Imagine a HUNDRED THOUSAND T-55s with APDS, what a beauty. For reference, those tanks first saw combat against Israel if I'm not mistaken ;)
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Tanking the definition of fascism from a fascist because it's convenient to your "all states are actually the same" ideology is also bad faith, especially when you explicitly ignore the differences in outcomes between different modes of governance.
To you it's a theoretical/philosophical debate about what's more pure, to me it's a matter of whether people get to have food, housing, healthcare, rights and education (which you explicitly ignored)
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Block me already, Mussolini enjoyer
I will never understand anarchists, if I can read and enjoy Kropotkin as a Marxist-Leninist, what the fuck prevents you from reading and enjoying Parenti
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Don't base your analysis of reality off jokes
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Then elaborate further instead of "actually no"
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>The top 10% still amount to around 25% of the wealth
Yes, so? Do you expect or wish a society with completely equal distribution of resources? I agree with the fundamental principle of harder working people receiving more than those who contribute less (as long as everyone's needs are met). The top 10% by the way weren't mostly politicians, they were highly trained workers like university professors, surgeons, media personalities, high profile artists...
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I've replied to the whole "Nazis and Soviets were allies" in another comment in this post, I encourage you to read it and reply. Thank you!
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China is socialist, not yet communist, but it did and it does follow the principles of Marxism-Leninism.
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So they actually tackle problematic issues instead of indiscriminate censorship, and that sounds like a worse alternative to you than "absolute freedom of speech in capitalist/Nazi-owned social networks"?
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I was responding to a question about the pejorative term "tankie", it was literally tankies being attacked here. My parentiposting consisted mainly of defending my ideology from attacks by the compatible left.
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Enough to suppress tankies*. They won't eliminate opinions from the capitalism-compatible left. Go ahead and praise European Socdems and war budgets in Europe, you won't get banned for doing that
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Well, as I said, you don't know what fascism is. My country (Spain) unfortunately suffered fascism for close to 40 years through the support of Nazis first, and then the US. Fascism is characterized by a hierarchization of society, praise of militarism, use of religion as a tool of control, heavy presence of private companies (with corrupt links to the government, see Bayern and Mercedes-Benz during Nazism, both of which got state-provided slave camps), increase in inequality, lack of welfare state including education, pensions and healthcare, repression of ethnic minorities and homogenization/centralization of the culture, repression of women's rights, absence of political parties, extreme far right nationalism, repression of all leftism, and use of imperialism and colonization.
Essentially all of that is the polar opposite of what existed in the eastern block.
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Nobody talked about divine utopias, Engels settled this topic 150 years ago in his "Socialism: scientific and Utopian". The USSR was scientific socialism, not utopian.
Calling the USSR fascist just proves how little informed you are about its realities. Free education to the highest level, free universal healthcare, guaranteed employment with high working rights and the highest rates of unionization at the time in the world, women's rights, guaranteed housing for everyone at 3% of the monthly income on average, quality and affordable public transit, heavily subsidized utilities and foodstuffs, lowest rates of economic inequality in the history of the region, respect for different ethnicities and their cultures and languages, strong investments in infrastructure and industrial development... All of this is very accessible information, you could read Albert Szymanski's "human rights in the Soviet Union" and check the sources there if you don't believe me.
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Terrible analysis based on cold-war lies. The USSR for example saw a massive reduction in the wealth and power of leaders compared to what came after and what existed before:
Tell me again how Che Guevara and Rosa Luxembourg were chasing power when they sacrificed their lives for the betterment of others
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>The Soviets invaded Poland to weaks late according to the treaty with Germany, because they were held back in Belarus, the Baltics and Ukraine
You're misunderstanding the post. Those territories at the time belonged to Poland. It is not until two weeks after the Nazis invaded, at a point when the Polish government collapsed, that the Soviets entered those "Polish" territories that now we consider Ukrainian, Belarusian and Lithuanian, and a very minor part of what nowadays we consider Poland.
Again, what was the alternative to Soviet presence in said territories after Polish government collapse?
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For reference so that you can recognize it in the future:
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I expected better knowledge of exosuits from Samus!
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The entirety of it, the "social credit score" thing is a far-right conspiracy theory promoted by Zionist media like the BBC.
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>Anarchist Catalonia, modern Rojava, more than a few pre-Columbian North American societies, the Paris Commune of 1793
Pre-columbian societies aside (you can't turn history around), all the rest ended up in fascism/monarchism/failed state in a matter of how many years/months?
>And you can care about results without having historical results
Yes, you can do that if your goal is moral purity or intellectual amusement and not the material improvement of the lives of actual people. All other system changes you've proposed are just changes of ruling class and production system due to the slow motor of history and development, except for the socialist revolutions in Russia, China and Cuba. We literally have the recipe that works, why do you reject it?
>Having a concrete, achievable plan to get results is good, but you also want to make sure that the results you're striving for are just
Agreed. That's why I praise the immense increases in welfare and quality of life in actually existing socialist countries, both historical and ongoing.
Yup, Ukraine has been found to train and provide drone operators to Islamist radicals in Mali
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>doesn't allow their people to not like them
According to western surveys too? So, everything good about China is fake news, nice maga hat you're wearing there! "Democracy perceptions is also Gynese propaganda!!!"
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Every source of positive information about China can safely be disregarded by right wing nationalists like you as "fake news", literal MAGA strategies
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They're ran by an uncaring party, who are turning the screws on the population who are rebelling and dying
Chinese support for their government is astronomically higher than in any western country
You have been lied to.
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>Sakha just wanted to give it's oil and minerals to Moscow. Yakutia just wanted desperately to learn Russian
You could ask those questions to the populations themselves. Where did they have better rights: under tsarism, under Bolshevism or under capitalism. If you care, you could listen to Sardana Nikolaeva being interviewed in the Actually Existing Socialism about the topic and commenting on the massive benefits and respect to native populations under socialism compared to now, let alone tsarism.
>Obviously Russia was robbing them blind, and holding them back.
Robbing them blind of what? Holding them back how? By not allowing them to participate in the western capitalist plunder of the rest of the world? Now Estonia gets to have a service society that will collapse with the rest of the EU since it dismantled whatever industry it built during the soviet period!
>Same as most other republics and Warsaw pact nations. GDP explosions after ditching the red parasite
Absolute fucking bullshit, the three countries to have benefitted after the dissolution of the Eastern Block have been Estonia, Poland and Czech Republic. Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Romania, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kirgyzstan, Moldova... Essentially every nation has had lower growth rates in capitalism than in socialism, and certainly a fucking horrifying demographic crisis caused by unemployment, drugs, violence, lack of healthcare, suicide... The dissolution of the eastern block has literally been the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century in Europe after WW2.
>Ukraine had borders just fine when Soviets invaded them
Ukraine didn't fucking had borders before 1917, are you fucking kidding me? Great job focusing on Belarus, a country of 10mn inhabitants, because it's the only possible example you can grasp yourself to lmao, the rest of countries literally show the opposite trend.
As for "holodomor", great job comparing literal genocide at the hands of French to an unwanted famine consequence of rapid collectivization (which was necessary to industrialize fast, as proven 10 years later by Nazism, of which Ukraine was saved thanks to Socialism).
Honestly, you're such a bad fucking faith actor.
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>Being better at violence doesn't make you more left
Being better at violence against fascism and imperialism *definitely* makes you more left, though. Actual praxis and results are to me the definition of successful leftism, not the realm of ideas. The lack of proper violence against such regimes leads to a destruction of the left wing.
>Your argument boils down to "might makes right" and could be expanded to classify social democracy as "more left"
Social democracy also regularly turns to fascism when it needs to, it's definitely lacking violence against fascism, amazing that you'd say this in 2026. I fucking wish our mighty social democracies in Europe fought against Israeli fascism and USA fascism, unfortunately they're buddies!
>(after all, it's left of the global status quo and its citizens are the happiest on average)
By excluding imperialism from the measure of average happiness, you're committing a sampling error. That would be like polling monarchs of medieval Europe to ask whether monarchy is the system making people happier. Ask the people in India and Sri Lanka and Peru extracting the resources of the goods social democracies consume and sewing the clothes we wear how happy they are with social democracy.
>Sure, it frequently decays into fascism, but so did the USSR
So, we have one example of a Marxist-Leninist state decaying to fascism (after saving Europe from Nazism) and several examples of countries *not* doing this (China, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba). How about we engage in honest criticism of the flaws of the Soviet model that led to its dissolution in order to prevent that from happening again?