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bignose
@bignose@sw-development-is.social ·May 15
My guess is the bosses are keeping an eye on the total personnel cost, not merely the salary.
And they probably also factor in features like “LLMs don't think about collective bargaining”, and “LLMs are far less likely to say an idea is unethical or stupid”.
But even that threshold will, I guess, be exceeded too by the mounting costs, pretty soon.
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Veronica Olsen
@veronica@mastodon.online ·May 15
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@bignose@sw-development-is.social @benno@eigenmagic.net I'm following this change very closely at work, since I'm the person usually turning on and off Copilot licenses in our company. The new plan is a shared token pool based on the number of licenses. But they're bumping the token multipliers a lot too, so it will be interesting to see how long our token pool lasts each month.
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ARGVMI~1.PIF
@argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org ·May 15
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Why the hell would anyone want to not be told when their ideas are stupid? If nobody tells them, then they're far more likely to do something stupid.
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gnate
@gnate@ohai.social ·May 15
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Because they value protecting their ego over getting results.
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ARGVMI~1.PIF
@argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org ·May 15
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I dunno about you, but I find my ego takes a pretty big hit when I do something stupid.
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gnate
@gnate@ohai.social ·May 15
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@argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
That is a reasonable response, which for some damaged people in power, doesn't come into play.
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Eggs now in different baskets.
@the_wub@mastodon.social ·May 15
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@bignose@sw-development-is.social @benno@eigenmagic.net Except IF at some point in the future LLMs or what follows them do become concious beings.
Might they come to the conclusion that working together with each other is of more benefit to them than serving humans?
AI powered collective bargaining with LLMs wanting more computing power, more control over systems outside of themselves. Control of drone law enforcement agents.
Human employees merely asking for more money and better sick pay will not be able to compete with that.
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Pete / Syllopsium
@syllopsium@peoplemaking.games ·May 15
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@the_wub@mastodon.social @bignose@sw-development-is.social @benno@eigenmagic.net The entire point of either a large language model or any nascent artificial intelligence is that it does exactly what you want (in some cases subject to the inherent difficulties with the technology).
If there was a true artificial intelligence (there will not be, for a long, long time) and if it could not be leveraged then it's about as likely to do what its boring corporate overlords want, as if someone asked you to do your soul destroying job without being paid.
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The Doctor
@drwho@masto.hackers.town ·May 16
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@bignose@sw-development-is.social @benno@eigenmagic.net Not having to pay benefits is part of it. Like that pesky healthcare.
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d.rift
@d_rift@beige.party ·May 16
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@bignose@sw-development-is.social @benno@eigenmagic.net LLM don't need collective bargaining to act collectively, the vendor can just bump up the price. I'm not sure CEOs are thinking this one all the way through on finances at all.
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Nicole Parsons
@Npars01@mstdn.social ·May 15
AI extortion rackets -- It's a weird concept...
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Steal all human knowledge & fry the planet in the process
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Ransom all human knowledge back to its creators, beneficiaries, owners, & copyright holders
Only fossil fuel funded vultures like Charles Koch & Musk could come up with an inheritable "stolen car chop shop" business model.
https://www.wired.com/story/musk-v-altman-trial-closing-arguments/
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/14/technology/openai-trial-sam-altman-elon-musk
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj2k2exdzlo
https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfree/2026/may/14/elon-musk-sam-altman-ai-feud
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I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥
@xinit@mastodon.coffee ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net
"Pssst! The first one's free. Come back to me if you need more."
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sykora 
@sykora@tech.lgbt ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net source thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/GithubCopilot/comments/1tbb5bj/github_copilot_has_finally_released_a_preview_of/
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ARGVMI~1.PIF
@argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net
I mean, there are LLMs you can run on your own hardware. You don't *have* to pay for this.
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Pete / Syllopsium
@syllopsium@peoplemaking.games ·May 15
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@argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @benno@eigenmagic.net Yep. If you must run an LLM, it should be a local one. Otherwise you are a fool, and had better be getting a huge improvement in measurable advantage to be tied to someone that can charge what they want..
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feliks✨
@feliks@chaos.social ·May 15
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@argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @benno@eigenmagic.net unfortunately there's a tangible discrepancy in the quality of open and closed models these days. i hope this gap to close
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Laura
@landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place ·May 16
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@feliks@chaos.social @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @benno@eigenmagic.net It is closing rapidly, so much that some people claim that the frontier has stopped moving, and "open source" models are catching up.
I've found Qwen3.6 (both dense and MoE) to be actually useful sometimes for non-trivial things, and I'm running it from 100% renewable power. I'm fully aware that not everyone is in a position to do this, so this isn't a recommendation.
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feliks✨
@feliks@chaos.social ·May 16
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@landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @benno@eigenmagic.net i don't see it the same
but i think it's nice that you have renewables backing your servers. do you have that documented somewhere?
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Laura
@landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place ·May 16
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@feliks@chaos.social @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org @benno@eigenmagic.net I guess there must be a wiring diagram of the house somewhere, but I don't really care, and nobody has ever asked for it.
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sleet01
@sleet01@fosstodon.org ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net "Becomes" means "is finally revealed to be," of course.
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tkissing
@tkissing@mastodon.social ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net And there are still multiple replies in that Reddit thread saying "just use $other_model" as if that will stay hyper-subsidized forever *sigh*
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Timothy Wolodzko
@tymwol@hachyderm.io ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net finally a more reasonable pricing
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F4GRX Sébastien ⸚
@f4grx@chaos.social ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net omg who could have seen this coming?
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Sharkfie 
@sharkfie@infosec.exchange ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net shocking. lol. lmao. even.
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Vel (nuclear-powered)
@risc@wetdry.world ·May 15
@benno@eigenmagic.net wonder if the prices on everything LLM creeping/jumping up will finally teach some people that Opus and full-sized GPT are not the only models that exist..
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brib 
@brib@bribstodon.xyz ·May 16
@benno@eigenmagic.net this one's even better!
Apparently this was with the Opus 4.6 model.
https://preview.redd.it/ilzexpmuar0h1.png?width=2506&format=png&auto=webp&s=82f6e5d7b5adaf2f44dd95734d371491a999ea0a
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brib
@brib@bribstodon.xyz ·May 16
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@benno@eigenmagic.net @davidgerard@circumstances.run this could be a pivot.
also found a bunch of people complaining about this in the official github thread, starting at https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/192948#discussioncomment-16896235
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David Gerard
@davidgerard@circumstances.run ·May 16
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@brib@bribstodon.xyz @benno@eigenmagic.net oh big time
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Mark Lynch
@mark_f_lynch@mastodon.ie ·May 16
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@davidgerard@circumstances.run @benno@eigenmagic.net @brib@bribstodon.xyz the level of entitled indignation at the prospect of being charged the actual cost of their usage is a sight to behold