Thank you!!

@Elliptica@poa.st @adequate@poa.st that was my read on it too, which is why I recommended the best reviewed 8" I could find

Alternatively, if space is an issue, the best alternatives are a maksutov or quality refractor. Maksutov's use a folded optical design, basically there is a big lens in front, following by two mirrors, that bounce the light around a lot. It gives SUPER sharp views because they are easily to construct, however the field of view is very narrow. It magnifies everything more than a telescope of a similar size but different design, and so everything will look bigger but dimmer through the same eyepiece. It's mostly good for planets and bird watching, but if you have limited space, and dark skies, it's worth a look. Lastly, look for a quality refactor (these are "normal" telescopes that everyone things of when they hear the word telescope). Anything by Takahashi or Tele Vue are really good options. The problem with them is the price, they can be crazy expensive. However, they retain their value, so you can sell them used in a few years and probably make your money back. Do not get a cheap refractor off amazon or ebay, you will be dissapointed by it. The "problem" with these options is the cost, it's higher than an 8in dobsonian by itself. Plus, you need to bring your own tripod, and it needs to be a good one or you'll hate using your telescope, so that makes it significantly more expensive.

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