@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Ronnie21093@varishangout.net Frankly, "everything." To some degree at least. :thonk: I get through the start easily, stone, sticks and a dirt shack. I can figure out the clay stuff no problem. But from there I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place, nothing is connecting in my mind and basically all I'm doing is looking at the wiki or handbook in-between every single minor thing I do. I definitely could get copper, not exactly some unknowable task, but the motivation to keep going is already draining by that point as I feel like I'm missing 50 other things I should've done first (and I just didn't know about) and they're all piling on creating issues for me (mostly in dying). One of these days I'll probably get it, but so far that hasn't happened. I understand fundamentally what people like at least.