2023-11-11 05:05 UTC
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@spacefall@nerdculture.de 2023-11-11 08:43
@nilesh@fosstodon.org The concept of Holy See has become muddied with business of limit of understanding using mind and language. The seed of privacy is another imperial exploration of emerging human needs. It's rare to see holy see but it's fair to see curiosity of what makes an electron? Plato still dominates religions. The technology is being exploited for the immense business of inner privacy of each individual. I feel strange why Ludwig Eduard Boltzmann committed suicide on 5 September 1906?
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@bentsukun@mastodon.sdf.org 2023-11-11 09:23
@nilesh@fosstodon.org The actual reason has nothing to do with this and everything to do with the Maps Frontend moving from its own binary to a plugin in the Google.com webserver.
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@mpv@mstdn.social 2023-11-11 13:59
@nilesh@fosstodon.org wonder if Apple could / would allow “path” based permissions? ie only give location under /maps?
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@StarkRG@myside-yourside.net 2023-11-11 14:20
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I don't use Google search anymore, unfortunately I haven't yet found an acceptable replacement for Google maps, particularly the mobile app. At least I can limit it to only tracking me when I actively use it.
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@faduda@mastodon.ie 2023-11-11 14:57
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I'd almost live with that, if the URL told me what I wanted to know, but they've somehow managed to simultaneously make it worse.
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@CounselorBecky@mastodon.sdf.org 2023-11-11 15:20
The more you know... 😳😬 Now, where did I put that extra large Rand McNally road atlas? @nilesh@fosstodon.org
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@sj_zero@social.fbxl.net 2023-11-11 15:35
OpenStreetMap is pretty amazing, and it can be self-hosted if need be.
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@MiriShuli@mstdn.social 2023-11-11 17:13
@nilesh@fosstodon.org and this is why I no longer use google maps.
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@dec23k@mastodon.ie 2023-11-11 17:21
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I just tried in a WWW browser with a few EU ccTLDs and got: maps.google.fr -> consent.google.fr -> "REJECT ALL" -> google.fr/maps/(lat,lon) But the map is always centred over close to where I am now (by IP address). Location permission is off. Exactly the same redirect URLs with ie,it,de,es. In the good old days, browsing to maps.google.ie was a shortcut for "Maps, but centred over the island of Ireland" (or the equivalent for whatever ccTLD I typed in).
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@JetForMe@geekstodon.com 2023-11-11 18:51
@nilesh@fosstodon.org too bad you can’t nckude parts of the path in the permissions specifications
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@kaan@fosstodon.org 2023-11-12 06:46
Edit: I previously claimed this couldn't be true because Google couldn't check if you granted geolocation permission or not, but I later discovered the Permissions API where a website can in fact check if they have geolocation permissions. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Permissions/query
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@enthraxxx@h4.io 2023-11-12 11:31
@nilesh@fosstodon.org What about going to that URL incognito? I just tried and there's a slight change: it asks for consent and then it asks if it can open the app. So the moral of the story is never go to Google without a cloak?
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@KarlE@mstdn.animexx.de 2023-11-12 11:32
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I only use Google Maps (*if* I use it - most times, I use openstreetmap) in the Private Browsing window. I am well aware that browser fingerprinting can still leak my browser identity but at least it makes it a bit harder - cookies are contained. Of course I do not use a Google account. @isotopp@chaos.social
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@nalsai@misskey.io 2023-11-12 13:20
@nilesh@fosstodon.org ahh, that makes sense. Location permission doesn't make much sense on desktop anyway, so they still don't get it from me.
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@castrillo@mastodon.online 2023-11-12 14:19
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I used to be one of the followers/fans of google tech, I switched my hotmail to gmail and really happy more when quotes like "don't be evil" were on the hook, but then +/- 2015/6 changes all situations like #terravision #reader #google+ so I closed it for completed in 2017/8 and didn't regret it, if I need to use any google product I just create a new dummy account.
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@sunshine@urbanists.social 2023-11-12 14:47
@nilesh@fosstodon.org Y'all motherfuckers are granting the location permission to Google Maps on desktop? 🤯
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@rdmueller@mastodontech.de 2023-11-12 16:42
@nilesh@fosstodon.org this is why it makes sense to use google maps and bing search (for instance). Or vice versa :-) But to be hones, the unpersonalised ads are horrible.
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@jackemled@furry.engineer 2023-11-12 17:05
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I wondered why this started happening. This makes alot of sense.
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@cxj@phpc.social 2023-11-12 18:24
@nilesh@fosstodon.org Nasty and evil.
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@hans@procolix.social 2023-11-12 21:45
@nilesh@fosstodon.org That's one of many, many reasons why I never use Google Maps (or anything Google, for that matter). OpenStreetMap is as good as Google Maps, but it doesn't come with this insane level of privacy violation.
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@banaslee@mastodon.world 2023-11-12 22:34
@nilesh@fosstodon.org ugh
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@MHowell@kolektiva.social 2023-11-13 03:22
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I have been using Gaia GPS for a while, for hikes primarily, but I never explored their privacy policies. Can someone point me to info about how they compare?
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@eluc@mastodon.xyz 2023-11-13 19:36
@nilesh@fosstodon.org On desktop I never give Google, including map, the localisation permissions. Almost no website get it, except my Nextcloud Map app. On mobile it's another story but I use almost no Google products beside Maps so I guess I limit the leak.
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@doekman@mastodon.nl 2023-11-14 08:16
@nilesh@fosstodon.org And if you pay attention, you also can see a redirect to youtube and back to google. For the same reason I guess…
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@kccqzy@techhub.social 2023-11-16 20:03
@nilesh@fosstodon.org @jwz@mastodon.social Don't grant location permission to Google maps. Chances are, you already know where you are.
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@marit@mastodon.art 2023-11-19 06:21
@nilesh@fosstodon.org that's one more reason to use #Openstreetmap! #osmand @openstreetmap@en.osm.town
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@TransitBiker@urbanists.social 2024-07-14 19:09
@nilesh@fosstodon.org I use Google earth instead.
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@loyc@mas.to 2023-11-13 13:34
@ferralcat@mastodon.social @jwz@mastodon.social @nilesh@fosstodon.org in case you are really using chrome, I recommend to try out Firefox (again). I'm really happy with it and all my extensions are compatible.
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@calmeilles@mstdn.social 2023-11-11 10:03
@jwz@mastodon.social @nilesh@fosstodon.org Do no evil…? Oh! Wait…!
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@Paul_Harts@mastodon.nl 2023-11-11 11:29
@jwz@mastodon.social @nilesh@fosstodon.org people are trash too. I’ve been told that if id pay €8,50 per month Google could run its services without selling adds cq my privacy. Can anyone confirm that amount? I would be happy to pay it.
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@LordCaramac@discordian.social 2023-11-11 16:47
@jwz@mastodon.social @nilesh@fosstodon.org All companies either turn into monstrosities or vanish in the long run.
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@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot 2023-11-11 09:50
@klausfiend@dcerberus.com @nilesh@fosstodon.org Do you have a requirement to use a specific authenticator app? If not, you could get an open source one from F-Droid https://search.f-droid.org/?q=authenticator&lang=en
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@NetBerry@mastodon.nl 2023-11-12 06:27
@klausfiend@dcerberus.com @nilesh@fosstodon.org in many cases you don’t need an Authenticator at all. It’s built in in iOS under passwords. Select the appropriate service and there it is: verification cordes.
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@NetBerry@mastodon.nl 2023-11-12 11:11
@klausfiend@dcerberus.com @nilesh@fosstodon.org yup. I love it. Get out of my way, #Google spythenticator and #Microsoft #authenticator. It came somewhere in 2021 already as you can read here: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/ipha6173c19f/15.0/ios/15.0 #totp