@bloor I've not looked recently, but around 2021/2022 my sister bought internet from BT (without talking to me first!).. after about 4 failed visits they managed to get fibre installed, and she told me what her monthly fee was... I was surprised that it was about the same as I pay @aaisp. Now, I normally consider A&A to be on the pricier side of ISPs, but worth it if you want a decent service. Very surprised that a bog standard BT connection, with BT levels of support was a similar price!