Post by @willrs@social.vivaldi.net

@willrs@social.vivaldi.net

2026-09-26 20:54 UTC

@jon@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net I love Vivaldi but it's a perfect example of how messy and gray this discussion is because if it wasn't for Apple and Google, Vivaldi would not exist (or would not be a realistic choice because yous simply could not create a browser engine from scratch, it costs an absurd amount of money)

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@jon@social.vivaldi.net 2026-09-26 21:01

@willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Here is the thing. I have done that before. Built a browser from scratch. And you are right that it takes up a lot of resources. Which is why Google and Apple did not do it either. Now, one can speculate what it would have meant for Opera, my former browser company, if Google and Apple had not taken open source and made it their own, but that is pure speculation.

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@lisp1984@mastodon.social 2026-10-11 13:35

@willrs@social.vivaldi.net @jon@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net crapple and scroogle steal things. crapple stole from xerox, scroogle stole kde's konqueror code. microshaft and krabapple are the pirates of silicon valley. gary kildall made dos. microshaft screwed over ibm with os/2. crapple does not allow free software on its shitty phiones. every company has to use crapple's web engine. scroogle just stopped 3rd party software from being installed on its shitty linux kernel android without paying scroogle money. presto was awesome.

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