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@jon@social.vivaldi.net

2026-09-26 21:01 UTC

@willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net Here is the thing. I have done that before. Built a browser from scratch. And you are right that it takes up a lot of resources. Which is why Google and Apple did not do it either. Now, one can speculate what it would have meant for Opera, my former browser company, if Google and Apple had not taken open source and made it their own, but that is pure speculation.

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  • @willrs@social.vivaldi.net 2026-09-26 21:24

    @jon@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net my personal conspiracy theory is that Google and Apple have deliberate made the web platform so enormous and complex so that it's basically impossible for another challenger to come along and make their own browser engine. Just maintaining things is insanely difficult and expensive. It's made even incremental improvements take years of work. This is why native apps are often the better choice. It's a real shame

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  • @lisp1984@mastodon.social 2026-10-11 13:42

    @jon@social.vivaldi.net @willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net i think the web is dying. one browser engine controlled by an evil advertising surveillance corporation based in the united states. one search engine when there used to be many. there seem to be less websites than in the past. everything ius centralized and it is mostly scroogle and facecrook which are nasty evil surveillance engines whiich buy our sleazy politicians to pass laws to give them more power. i recommend a gecko based browser first to people then vivaldi.

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  • @lisp1984@mastodon.social 2026-10-11 13:47

    @jon@social.vivaldi.net @willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net when i give out my email address, i tell people "vivaldi as in the composer or the web browser." i have to carefully pronounce the name and spell it. i miss presto....it is ashame it did not become free software. then we would have 3 browser engines. they destroyed opera and pasted its brand onto a chrome clone by a chinese company. i was at a loss when opera 12.x stopped being maintained. i was so used to how powerful opera was. "otter" was a new opera but it did not last.

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  • @lisp1984@mastodon.social 2026-10-11 13:51

    @jon@social.vivaldi.net @willrs@social.vivaldi.net @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net there were many opera users who were abandoned. we lost myopera.com. i had an operamail email address for an eternity. that is why i have a fastmail email now a well. otter was based on i think wb kit or something like that. i used to rely on mouse gestures and clicking right-button then left-button or something like that to go back a page. i have used firefox since it was caled firebird and i used mozilla suite before that and i always liked netscape.

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