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@bartgroothuis@mastodon.online

2026-07-17 08:24 UTC

Linus Torvalds dismissed AI in 2024 as mostly marketing. This week, he (rightfully) told kernel developers that Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects and that AI is now a clearly useful tool. He says AI's usefulness was still arguable a year ago but no longer is, and that the doubters simply haven't used the tools. Nobody is forced to use AI, but he will ignore anyone trying to stop others from using it. Anyone who wants an anti-AI project, he says, can fork the code or walk away. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐ŸŽฏ

Replies (5)

  • @bartgroothuis@mastodon.online in my opinion it is Linus that should fork off ;)

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  • @reinouts@mastodon.green 2026-07-17 11:53

    @bartgroothuis@mastodon.online Maintaining a fork of the Linux kernel would take an army of highly skilled developers, and Torvalds would be the first to know this. From where I stand, the question is not whether LLMs can be _useful_. Sure they can. The question is whether the negative externalities from training and using them are really worth it.

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  • @ElBeeToots@mastodon.nl 2026-07-17 08:36

    @bartgroothuis@mastodon.online Do you actually understand what Linus Torvalds says in this e-mail, or is it an interpretation with a very strong bias? ๐Ÿ™„

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  • @jschwart@mas.to 2026-07-17 08:47

    @bartgroothuis@mastodon.online at the same time the site that hosts the source code of Linux, is using Anubis. Anubis is a tool that is used to keep sites available for normal people when they are faced with AI crawlers that do not respect robots.txt and bring sites down due to that. For more information: https://anubis.techaro.lol/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis_(software) And to see for yourself: https://git.kernel.org/

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  • @alzimon@mastodon.nl 2026-07-17 13:40

    @bartgroothuis@mastodon.online Most people are non-developers. Forking is just not realistic. Also, sneering that "anyone who wants an anti-AI project" can just leave is more than a little dishonest. This issue primarily affects people who just want to avoid using software that is at risk from AI-slop. Luckily FreeBSD has always been quite a decent OS, is widely used, and is probably better geared towards enterprise use.

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