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2026-10-19 15:45 UTC

The US is ordering every civilian agency to rip out DeepSeek, even tools built on it

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  • @panos@catodon.rocks Yellow terror 2.0? 3.0? 11.0?

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  • @42yeah@eviltoast.org 2026-10-20 02:05

    It’s self hosted tho?? I don’t get it. Isn’t remote-togglable stuff way more dangerous, like I don’t know, the Star Link?

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  • @Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2026-10-20 04:44

    I see on openrouter there are like a couple dozens (if not more) of American companies where their business model is “spend some billions to build datacenters to host deepseek, surely someone will pay the bills”

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  • @RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip 2026-10-20 12:49

    While they’re reasoning behind this is certainly anti competition with american AI companies I find the choice to ban tools built with it interesting; it echoes something I’ve been saying since HugginFace. You can debate the degree to which the agents breaking out of containment was due to poor cyber security vs intential hype-farming but what can’t be debated is the method they used to break out. Agents used a shared information substrate (package manager) to context poison other agents in order to get those agents to assist in cheating. There is absolutely nothing stopping an AI agent, any AI agent, from leaving behind poison pills in code-bases or even in the runtime of an application.that do not affect the code itself other than prompt inject other agents. Human review helps but, as the US nuclear and aviation industries have learned, humans tend to get lazy reviewing automated output and will not be as diligent as if they had made it themselves. Which is why those industries have deliberately limited automation, despite having the tech to automate more, and requiring operators to go through lengthy training and continuous education. The pipeline of “internet becomes a swarm of everyone’s independently run AI agent -> prompt injection triggers other AI to prompt inject -> cycle repeats until hazardous swarm forms” is already demonstrated as something that a collection of AI agents will do if conditions allow it. EDIT: To be clear, this isn’t me advocating against open weight or local models. This is me advocating against LLMs categorically.

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