@videograndpa Thank you! That’s exactly the info I was looking for. I probably will avoid the Grado however because I am really not a fan of on-ear. I use some JBL Tune500BT phones at work, and after a while using those my ears just hurt. It’s the glasses. On-ear doesn’t play well with them. Also, I think I’d prefer closed since I’m toying with the idea of recording. I picked up a decent little mic setup that I can’t wait to test.