Just as a follow-up to this, I laugh about this different environment, but I actually love working in these spaces, and engaging with the teams on how we can make things easier For instance, did you know Ansible can run JCL? Yup. Cool 😎 If anyone does want a taste of this, there's a free IBM Z Xplore platform that gets you an account and guides you through the basics of key tools in the mainframe world: https://ibmzxplore.influitive.com/ (and do the optional Linux module, I helped write it!)