Post by @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca

2026-10-21 00:31 UTC

Right, we need to act outside the electoral system if we want real change, 100% agreed. How does spending 1 hour every few years to vote for a party who won’t round up your neighbours into ICE concentration camps, take away abortion rights, gut environmental regulations, and oppress your LGBT+ friends and family change that? That’s the part I don’t get. Voting liberal/Democrat/whatever clearly helps MANY people materially. How does not voting help? I’m in no way saying voting is enough, or voting will solve our problems, or get us out of neoliberalism. I’m just asking what material gain for your lives and the lives of oppressed people are you making by not voting that’s better than voting liberal? Are you just hoping conservative victories will lead us to revolution through accelerationism? I just don’t get it.

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@BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml 2026-10-21 00:46

The short answer is that democrats aren’t just not good enough, they are actively detrimental to all the causes you mentioned. Democrats expanded the ICE concentration camps (that Trump took over from Obama by the way), abortion rights were taken away under JOE BIDEN who DID NOTHING despite getting AMPLE WARNING, they likewise fuck over the environment and oppress queer people. So voting democrat clearly harms many people materially. Voting for them does not help.

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@BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml 2026-10-21 00:57

accelerationism Why are all of you all of a sudden using this term? And why is not one of you using it correctly? I am begging you to learn the words you use

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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2026-10-21 10:29

The Democrats built up ICE along with the Republicans. The Democrats stood idle while abortion rights were attacked, and queer people attacked. At a certain point of ineffectiveness, even if we assumed that the Democrats really did want to improve things, their sheer incompetence is worthy of abandonment. The most oppressed people I know are also the most revolutionary and the most critical of the Democrats. Also, “make things bad” isn’t accelerationism. Accelerationism is the belief that we need to speed up centralization of capital in the imperial core in order to move the timeline of capitalist crisis forward, ie we need to support the most competent capitalists. The Democrats are generally better for corporate profits, and therefore are the actual accelerationist party. Accelerationism is wrong and a bad strategy, but the idea that anyone is supporting the Republicans on the left is nonsense.

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