With some recent success in the short story after a hiatus of decades to support first a family, then the labor movement, I went back to review work of mine published in my twenties. “In Here, Out There” appeared in 1985 in Berkeley Poets Cooperative, now long gone. Bulb Culture Collective specializes in publishing work from defunct literary magazines. My thanks to them for resurrecting the story: https://www.bulbculturecollective.com/read/in-here-out-there-michael-thriault