@soller it's mind-blowing to me to watch these presumably tech literate developers and techies say the dumbest shit about an *alpha* release of software. Literally complaining about bugs in an *alpha* release of a DE. Or worse "it doesn't even have x,y,z features!!!11one" Uh, yea, no shit. It's an *alpha*. Fwiw, it's been rock solid in my VM, but if it wasn't ITS AN ALPHA.