@briankrebs__dup_6@infosec.exchange
2023-02-17 12:54 UTC
Replies (40)
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@briankrebs@infosec.exchange 2023-02-17 13:20
I mean, think about this for just a sec: LinkedIn, Twitter, SnapChat, Instagram, the list goes on and on. The VERY first thing these platforms will do after you've installed the app and logged in is to ask you to share all of the information in your address book. Ever wonder how these social networks got so big so fast? It's remarkable how much of their growth is based on convincing everyone it's totally fine and normal to give away all of the contact information given to them by friends, family and acquaintances.
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@Loukas@mastodon.nu 2023-02-17 12:56
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange now I'm imagining how signing up with all the others is like being a member of the French resistance captured by the Gestapo. WE WANT NAMES
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@Viss@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 12:57
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange i appreciate the phrasing here
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@reduxe@twit.social 2023-02-17 12:59
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange and check your add blocker... There's nothing for it to do...
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@geoff_green@friendsofdesoto.social 2023-02-17 13:00
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange yes, I had to take an extra step to betray them!
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@iapfel@mastodon.world 2023-02-17 13:00
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange Obviously it’s doing it all wrong! lol
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@graygoogirl@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 13:01
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange No profit motive means no need for never ending userbase growth. It's a beautiful thing antithetical to what we've come to expect of social media.
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@jaytaylor@mastodon.online 2023-02-17 13:02
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange True. But, Mastodon is the first social network I've joined where none of my friends IRL have accounts.
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@pgv@omglol.fun 2023-02-17 13:06
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange I hadn’t even noticed, but you’re right. On the other hand, if we’re feeling nostalgic we can always copy paste it in to some request headers or something.
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@briankrebs@infosec.exchange 2024-11-16 17:26
Tired: App demands access to all of your contacts upon account creation. Wired: App demands near total access to your other social media apps, contacts, posts, timeline, likes, friends, settings, blah blah.
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@clovertalk@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 13:26
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange Everything feels way more low key here, in a good way. When I go into my Instagram account, I can barely stay there for very long with all the ads and sponsored posts. Had completely forgotten about the whole giving away contacts thing.
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@dalias@hachyderm.io 2023-02-17 14:03
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange The concept of devices having a global contacts list, rather than each app having its own, is just so stupid and ripe for abuse. There are exactly zero times I've wanted to use someone's legacy POTS phone number in a context other than the stock phone/SMS apps (which could & should have been a single unified thing so as not to have to share data).
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@FeralRobots@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 14:11
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange I'm so used to reflexively working around the request that I don't even notice it anymore. But...yeah!
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@probablyjohnfunk@social.linux.pizza 2023-02-17 14:22
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange Wow, excellent point. I'm so accustomed to ignoring that prompt when the other guys do it that I didn't even realize Mastodon didn't.
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@peemee@theblower.au 2023-02-17 14:29
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange Go back 10 years. AppDotNet was the Twitter/Facebook refuge where users' data was their own.
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@RuralTechie@mstdn.ca 2023-02-17 14:55
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange Or provide a phone number "for verification".
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@tebrown@social.linux.pizza 2023-02-17 16:19
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange @selea@social.linux.pizza Even telegram. Telegram used to be cool, but it's generally just terrible now.
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@RTV@mstdn.social 2023-02-17 16:23
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange you're right! I hadn't thought of that.
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@pennythande@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 16:51
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange 😂😂
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@marianarte@mastodon.art 2023-02-17 16:55
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange 😃😃
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@wpattison@hachyderm.io 2023-02-17 16:56
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange
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@IOU1Username@mastodon.online 2023-02-17 17:11
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange .... ..... ......... You need asked to do that? This is why Nixon called me a 'fine young gentleman.'
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@8tpercent@fosstodon.org 2023-02-17 17:39
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange this sounds like withdrawal symptoms... To ease your symptoms... Just copy all you contacts into notepad, a csv file or screengrabs... and attach to your posts here... I'm sure it'll be fine 😂 seriously though... It's very refreshing isn't it.
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@teksquisite@infosec.exchange 2023-02-17 18:24
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange every day I find a new reason to embrace #mastodon 🫂
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@Investor@mas.to 2023-02-17 18:34
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange I agree. So nice. Dont miss the other ones
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@LeaBug@mindly.social 2023-02-17 18:43
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange it's nice isn't it?
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@cherryblossomgirl@tech.lgbt 2023-02-17 18:43
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange this is true!!
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@britishtechguru@techhub.social 2023-02-17 18:45
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange That's because Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, SnapChat, Instagram etc are not "social media" but marketing companies who pretend to provide social media but who actually market and sell all your personal data - including relationships. They're like recruiting companies that advertise fake jobs and collect resumes then demand references then try to sell their services to your referees.
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@jaymcor@mastodon.acm.org 2023-02-17 18:49
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange I figure someone will point out the existence of tools like twitodon or movetodon, either as a counter-example, or a way to address the tradeoff of making the connection process more convenient, as a service to the user. And so, I want to point out, having a way to find them is fundamentally different from exposing them, and if you wanted a good and trustworthy tool to expose selected rows and columns of your addressbook, it's easier to just bcc them, and/or post to whatever group.
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@ciscogod@mastodon.sdf.org 2023-02-17 19:19
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange I don’t believe any of them ask, they just pilfer away.
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@carolinian@toot.io 2023-02-17 19:41
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange I refuse access on most of them
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@KLB@glasgow.social 2023-02-17 20:21
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange or them to betray you!! (Great choice of words, btw)
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@Beherenowagainandagain@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 20:31
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange 🙂
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@JamesTDG@mastodon.world 2023-02-17 20:33
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange yup, even Reddit wanted my address book
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@suldrew@xoxo.zone 2023-02-17 20:42
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange yes, I always always always block that
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@tomw@mastodon.social 2023-02-17 20:43
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange This reminded me of the time I went on Tiktok and I did *not* share my address book. But then it showed me a video by an acquaintance from a few years back with the explanatory text: "You're in their address book." I genuinely physically recoiled.
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@emmv@ravenation.club 2023-02-17 23:45
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange ah, you've never been on Usenet :)
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@halfcocked@mstdn.social 2023-02-18 02:25
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange disappointing that I didn't poison another directory with false email and phone numbers and first name only entries
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@mark@tech.lgbt 2023-02-17 16:19
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange Ugh, it doesn't matter how many times I say NO and delete any data they got off me, the apps still try and trick me into giving them permission by springing dialogues on me at inconvenient times so I press yes without thinking. Or they suggest “contacts” to me regardless, perhaps because I'm in *their* contacts. They have no concept of how consent is meant to work.
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@PortFastNeighbr@urbanists.social 2023-02-18 02:39
@briankrebs@infosec.exchange lol, I don't remember myspace asking for that...