Post by @mawhrin@awful.systems

2026-10-17 16:03 UTC

bow before the true champion of the working class, s e gyges: a lot of opposition to AI is rent seeking, and the material incentives of being a rentier, even a small time one, lead you towards fascist conclusions from first principles between him saying this, and other ai pushers declaring the ai conscious and being enslaved (and being actually fine with helping promulgating what they truly believe is slavery, because hey, you need to pay the rent), i am afraid something worse than usual entered the californian drinking water. (not linking to the skeet on purpose).

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@lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 2026-10-17 17:07

I tried coming up with a good interpretation of what he said and I came up empty handed. I’m sure he will write a very helpful 5 part 20000 word blog post explaining exactly what he means.

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@Soyweiser@awful.systems 2026-10-17 17:10

Look he is right, if you redefine ‘rent’ to mean something totally else that includes people being paid for their labour. In the same way that telling people they should pay their fair share of taxes is actually saying you want to murder them. (Sorry crazy libertarian logic is the only way I can make sense of this).

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@istewart@awful.systems 2026-10-17 17:13

Yeah this is literally pants-on-head crazy. The explicit business model of the AI companies is rent-seeking on as much human activity as they can figure out how to intermediate. I suspect our friend is having a bit of a dark night of the soul, and trying to cope with it by turning his opposition’s obviously correct argument back on them in slipshod fashion. Dare I say, a typical Republican tactic?

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@Architeuthis@awful.systems 2026-10-17 18:37

other ai pushers declaring the ai conscious Hey now, segyges has had his own whinging multithousand word blogpost on model consciousness since early spring (tldr: currently not really, but it’s inevitable because I really want it to, so don’t be on the wrong side of history when it happens). He’s seems to be angling for the role of TPOT scott alexander, except instead of gradually cultivating a consensus in favor of eugenics and being ruled by high IQ overmen his long term thing is establishing any perceived anti-AI sentiment as an unforgivable moral failing.

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@swlabr@awful.systems 2026-10-17 21:48

TFG: Everything I don’t like is rent seeking. Checkmate, anyone ideologically to the left of me

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@lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 2026-10-18 12:40

I just remembered what his slopstack is called. My “Very Sane AI Newsletter” has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the name of my newsletter.

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