@djsumdog@djsumdog.com @deprecated_ii@poa.st Early code editors and compiler output could be less than ideal, and it could be hard to figure out stuff which is trivial today. But to have that as the modern measurement for competence today is strange. Compilers and their output and tools have improved, and most would (or at least should) probably agree that's a good thing. If one would agree LLMs are a good or bad is a separate question. Yet so many "old school" programmers seems to equate the needlessly hard work of the past with skill and somehow being good.