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@MaddieM4@raphus.social

2026-09-27 17:36 UTC

So IMHO, #NeverSlop is the new baseline of trust in that social contract, and software that doesn't live up to it - even if the version today is A-OK - does not live up to the perpetuity of trust expectations I want for my peace of mind, the ones already established as precedent for our ecosystem since I was a teenager trying to figure out how to pronounce "Ubuntu." Software that might slop out *someday* doesn't actually have a place in a system of convenient, high-trust assumptions.

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  • @craigbro@infosec.exchange 2026-09-27 21:29

    @MaddieM4@raphus.social the over leveraged transient trust relationships we have embodied in package managers and distributions with massive package sets and builds with maximum features and thus maximum dependencies, are no longer tenable. Slop exacerbates it, but even without slop we are seeing the results of that shared infrastructure being targeted by bad actors — states, criminal gangs, rent seekers. I say this not in disagreement with #NeverSlop as a system design principal, but to expand the understanding of the threats we face at this time. No slop, no features designed for rent extraction, no standards that are cartel whitewashing, measure and know the cost of each dependency, and build open alternatives that are radically simpler. For example, GameOfTrees, not git with rust and ruby toolchain dependencies. Workflows that don’t require JavaScript to collaborate.

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