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@troed@swecyb.com

2026-08-29 16:29 UTC

@briankrebs@infosec.exchange tbf most arguments I see from the anti AI crowd don't make sense - it fits that they're seeing information pushed by bad actors and then that (highly skewed) information becomes some sort of "truth" and if you try to correct it you get called various ... names. There are definitely weird permissions given in the US for some planned data centers - but the US isn't the whole world. Here in Sweden we built data centers for European AI that runs on renewable energy and does not use potable water for cooling.

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  • @seanm@infosec.exchange 2026-08-29 16:57

    @troed@swecyb.com @briankrebs@infosec.exchange weird. Every conversation I've had with the pro-GenAI crowd don't make sense. Every conversation is like attending an Elon Musk speech where FSD (or Mars) is just a year away, except in this case it's AGI or profitability for GenAI. 80% of the use cases I hear don't actually require GenAI. Everyone has a hammer and every problem is a nail with the GenAI crowd. #GenAI #LLM #AiSlop

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  • @troed@swecyb.com @briankrebs@infosec.exchange I've had some long complicated educating sessions with green folks here about data centre asset utilisation versus millions of machines idle in offices, and water recycling, and putting the heating somewhere sensible actually being one of the big issues. We should be putting greenhouses all round them or piping the heat out to heat networks It's a complex issue and aside from the non 'AI' cases the bad is mostly from malpractice and poor regulation letting them do bad stuff

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  • @en3py@onlyarts.social 2026-08-29 16:35

    @troed@swecyb.com @briankrebs@infosec.exchange water isn't even that big of a problem, the vast majority of DCs in EU are running on closed circuit cooling systems. AI datacentres are a whole different story, with the energy requirement, pollution and noise (cfr. the US/TX X-AI datacenter and its NLG generators) The China rhetoric makes no sense either, IMHO, sounds just like a scapegoat. Data control? Well, I think that's a whole different story. And cybe risk: these businesses are ruining the Net. But it's just my 2c

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