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2025-10-20 21:33 UTC

@corbet@social.kernel.org No no no no no and no. None of this is trivial to 99% of humanity. PLEEEEEEEASE see this from the perspective of regular humans!

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  • @laird@hachyderm.io 2025-10-20 21:43

    @ewen@social.ewenbell.com @corbet@social.kernel.org setting up an extra SSID is mostly easy for people who know what an SSID is without looking it up. Which is a fairly small slice of humanity. But it's worse than that -- I don't think putting IoT devices on their own SSID *but the same underlying network* makes much sense. You'd probably like IoT networks to look more like guest networks, with strictly controlled access to other devices. Which needs (at a minimum) VLANs and an extra set of firewall policies, all of which depend on so many things that there's no way to produce any sort of useful cookbook for people with moderate amounts of technical skill. And then you'll discover that there's no good way to actually configure new IoT devices without moving a phone onto the IoT network. And some features will just silently fail to work if you don't have direct IP access to the IoT device from a phone. And useful things like mDNS won't work at all unless you go to heroic lengths. I'm perfectly capable of setting up an IoT network at home. I even have most of the config for it rolled out. But I've never moved a single device into the IoT network, because it's just going to make everything extra-painful in practice.

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