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@romli@social.vivaldi.net

2026-09-18 07:06 UTC

@ibboard@hachyderm.io @markwyner@mas.to so the problem is not age verification, it's untrustworthy and unverified identity providers. Would agree that is an issue but surely the solution then is to make that process secure and trustworthy. We can trust dvla to hold our data but no other organization on earth?

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  • @ibboard@hachyderm.io 2026-09-18 08:25

    @romli@social.vivaldi.net @markwyner@mas.to Half of the problem is untrustworthy providers. And when they're commercial entities then that's NEVER going to go away. Half of the problem is necessity, proportionality and appropriateness of age verification on social media. If the lawmakers REALLY cared about solving "addictive behaviour" and abuse and harmful content then they'd target the social media sites and make them implement better controls for EVERYONE, rather than age-gating it so that parents don't have to parent but then kids turn 18 and get dumped into all the addictive design, abuse and harmful content with no prior experience of it or how to handle it.

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  • @ahltorp@mastodon.nu 2026-09-18 12:20

    @romli@social.vivaldi.net @ibboard@hachyderm.io @markwyner@mas.to Would you also want age verification for children gathering in a public space? If not, why do you want age verification for a community driven online space?

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  • @romli@social.vivaldi.net @ibboard@hachyderm.io @markwyner@mas.to Untrustworthy identity providers are a problem, but not the problem at hand when it comes to age verification for operating systems. Because that’s what these laws aim at. The wording includes *every* app store, so even a simple `apt-get install …` would require age verification. That’s obviously untenable.

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  • @romli@social.vivaldi.net @ibboard@hachyderm.io @markwyner@mas.to Besides all that, age verification is also expensive. Very, very expensive. 99% of Internet sites, including this one, would be forced to shut down, and Facebook would be given a monopoly on speech.

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