@malachai@furry.engineer @freya@chaosfem.tw That sucks! And this should be shouted at all of the eejits who are pushing for the oh-so-shiny new stuff just because it's new, and it almost works for me, why don't you like it, and the old stuff is old. Yes, it is old but it works, also for people who need special things, like screen readers and what not. At least in an IT forum I loosely follow some of the residents brought that up, regarding wayland. (and pipwire is a hot mess at least when I tried)