RE: https://nondeterministic.computer/@mjg59/117406074421025473 This is a great thread on the complexity of secure hibernate. I think a lot of people have a habit of looking at secure boot and these defenses as being anti user. They're not. We really need to rename userland. Userland is where every website runs. The kernel is the program that you, the user, use to defend yourself from userland. Secure boot ensures it isn't subverted against your will.