In the late 80s, a band called The Ocean Blue had a dream-pop sound that pulled me away from listening to Rick Astley and into the world of alternative and shoegaze. Lead singer David Schelzel tells the story of being shoegaze before grunge took hold. https://www.rhino.com/podcast/the-ocean-blues-david-schelzel-and-the-glory-days-of-sire-records