Post by @silverpill@mitra.social

2026-10-24 14:31 UTC

@phnt@fluffytail.org >dockerslop For interpretable programming languages (e.g. Python), non-docker setups may be too difficult to maintain so developers simply don't bother. Any OS update on the user side may break their setup. Any library update on the maintainer side may break some user's setup. It never ends.

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@phnt@fluffytail.org 2026-10-24 14:37

@silverpill@mitra.social This is mostly a Python being a horrible language problem. Perl or Ruby don't have this issue unlike in Python land where a venv is almost a necessity. It is impressive how many breaking changes Python can fit into every _minor_ release. RT: https://fluffytail.org/objects/e725d71d-21f7-4bad-93e7-e23355ae699f

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@icedquinn@blob.cat 2026-10-24 14:44

@silverpill@mitra.social @phnt@fluffytail.org "here's the docker file" being the only supported method is what you end up with when linux is overtly hostile to stability and people have real work to do. companies especially just targeted cent or ubuntu lts and said good luck. nobody wants to futz with arch's rolling bullshit or various distros bikeshedding. clean enough docker files basically are the install instructions, so there's also that. (apptainer build scripts are literal bash scripts with some light metadata in comments.)

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