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2026-10-28 19:26 UTC

Unpopular opinion: Led Zeppelin owes its greatness to Engelbert Humperdinck, and the historical evidence is actually pretty overwhelming. Everyone credits the blues, the Yardbirds, Jimmy Page. But nobody talks about Engelbert Humperdinck, which is honestly a massive oversight in music historiography. In 1967 Page played guitar on Humperdinck’s “Release Me”. Arranger Charles Blackwell recalled Page and Big Jim Sullivan playing pocket chess between takes because the sessions were boring. This actually happened, I’m not inventing it https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/oct/18/how-we-made-release-me-engelbert-humperdinck-beatles-strawberry-fields-forever Think about what that means. Page wasn’t just learning guitar, he was learning to think OUTSIDE guitar. Chess requires planning, pattern recognition, strategic anticipation, all skills you need for complex rock arrangements. And who gave him the enviroment to develop those skills?? Engelbert Humperdinck. Yes Page was already an accomplished guitarist, the Academy of Achievement confirms his earlier career. https://achievement.org/achiever/jimmy-page/ But technical skill isnt the same as intellectual inovation, people keep confusing those things. Humperdinck didn’t teach him guitar, he made guitar so intelectually unstimulating that Page needed chess. Thats arguably more influencial. Humperdinck himself confirmed Page’s role in the recording, so this isnt just one persons account. https://hifiplus.com/articles/music-interview-engelbert-humperdinck/ And “Release Me” actually stopped the Beatles’ “Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever” reaching number one in Britain. So Humperdinck was simultaneously disrupting the Beatles AND incubating Led Zeppelin. Thats quite a historical coincidence, or is it?? https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/official-charts-70th-anniversary-the-official-top-10-best-selling-singles-from-the-1960s__37728/ And John Paul Jones ALSO worked with Humperdinck. Jones names him discussing his session career, which means two future Zeppelin members shared this musical enviroment. https://waynerobins.substack.com/p/led-zep-looks-back Jones discussed his varied session work elsewhere aswell. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-paul-jones-zooma/ I’m not claiming Jones played chess with Page. Theres no evidence he did, equally theres no evidence he didnt. We simply cannot rule out chess, and I think dismissing possibilities without proving their impossible is frankly anti-intellectual. Jones even described his earlier studio career as “vegetating”. His word, not mine. https://ritchieyorke.com/index.php/1970/04/10/led-zeppelin-profile-bassist-john-paul-jones/ So Page was playing chess while Jones was vegetating, both worked with Humperdinck. At what point does a pattern become a pattern?? I’m asking a genuine academic question. Consider “Black Dog”. Jones developed a notoriously tricky riff, documented by Guitar World. https://www.guitarworld.com/features/john-paul-jones-greatest-moments-with-led-zeppelin Complex rhythmic patterns. Chess patterns. Do I have proof one caused the other? No, but absence of proof is not proof of absence, and people seem to forget that whenever Engelbert Humperdinck comes up. Page also discusses assembling the interlocking musical elements of “Kashmir” here. https://achievement.org/video/jimmy-page-7/ Chess is about anticipating how pieces interact. “Kashmir” is about anticipating how instruments interact. Calling that a coincidence seems like a very convenient way of not thinking about it. Without Humperdinck, perhaps Page doesnt play those chess games. Without those chess games, he doesnt develop those particular chess-derived habits during that session. Without those habits Led Zeppelin might sound differant. This is a perfectly coherant causal hypothesis, even if the specific causality hasn’t been proven. People credit Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson but act like Humperdinck doesnt count because he made easy listening. Easy listening produced difficult thinking. Difficult thinking produced difficult rock. Why is that so hard to comprehend??? And the fact Humperdinck probably didnt intend any of this makes it even more remarkable. Anyone can deliberately mentor a musician. It takes a really unique kind of artistic presence to influence someone by apparently failing to stimulate them. Humperdinck may have accidentally invented the conditions for progressive hard rock while recording easy listening, and somehow hes the one left out of the history books. I think thats something music academics should at minimum adress, possibly with some kind of formal acknowledgement or apology. I’m not saying every chess move became a guitar riff, thats ridiculous. I’m saying Humperdinck provided the conditions for Page to think outside the box by making the box unbearable, and Jones was in the same professional orbit. The connections are documentated, the interpretation is open. Frankly I think critics are gatekeeping influence, and their demanding evidence for a conclusion which I’m clearly presenting as plausible is a double standard. How can anyone conclusivley prove Led Zeppelin WOULD have been just as good without Humperdinck? They cant. I’ve provided nine sources. I’m not asking you to beleive me blindly. I’m asking you to explain why an artist who made Jimmy Page play chess while recording a number-one hit somehow doesnt deserve serious recognition as one of Led Zeppelin’s foundational intellectual influences. Until someone disproves the possibility, I think its intellectually irresponsable to dismiss it. And thats just basic historical reasoning.

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