@bud_t@m.ai6yr.org 12 hours that's big and a lot of patience :D in the recent trip I learned how to grill pork (or any meat) on a skewer - it was a great experience. and for marinade, rather than rub, "marinade" we used onions, tomatoes, smoked paprika (as a spice), pepper mix (already as a spice), some salt, just a little, not to take all the juice away, I believe. when adding tomatoes and onions need to squish them so they give their juice out.