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2026-09-10 00:15 UTC

@ludonaut@timetheft.rip You would probably be fine with us running a 256 core machine 24/7 doing fuzzing but yet us paying hundreds of dollars to get far more useful results is somehow us destroying the environment. We do not understand where you're coming from or why you're so incredibly angry with us. It's not justified and does not make sense. Many of the people attacking us travel around the world to conferences on airplanes, drive to work and probably have the carbon footprint of half our team or more.

Replies (5)

  • @wafflesies@infosec.exchange 2026-09-10 00:21

    @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @ludonaut@timetheft.rip me turning off my light when i go to work while a billionaire burns my lifetime carbon footprint in an hour

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  • @ludonaut@timetheft.rip 2026-09-10 00:28

    @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social hundreds of dollars per month huh... feels great i bet. your actions matter. you don't exist in a vacuum, everything you do is political, even diet choice or mode of travel and what to compute, especially if the "you" we're talking about isn't a single person but a project. the nth times infinity digit of pi won't matter if computing it boiled off the oceans. lamps in videogames, as the meme goes, use real electricity, and llm datacenters run quite literally on gas turbines.

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  • @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social It has become a religious issue.

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  • @skyblitz@ieji.de 2026-09-10 01:52

    @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @ludonaut@timetheft.rip but funny how certain asshole, immediately label you nazi because you simply state a fact that Security = AI + human. If we put all those people with a negative IQ in orbit, we would not see the sun anymore. Edit : corrected QI into IQ (translation mistake), thanks matt.

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  • @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social @ludonaut@timetheft.rip this is clearly just a value discrepancy that I doubt you can resolve with words. I see the fundamental values of grapheneOS as security and privacy and those of us who switched to it with that knowledge and expectation in mind will understand using "the tools of the enemy"/"unethical tools"/whatever to the end of better security/privacy. But right now llm-opposition as a primary value is in conflict with security as a primary value. Welcome to life in dystopia.

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