@ChasingWaterfalls@spinster.xyz It's insane how much propaganda is going around these days and also how easy it is to believe it. It's interesting that Trump was one of the loudest voices against what he called 'fake news' and yet how little has been effective in getting rid of it because we are 'free countries'. (Meanwhile Carnage keeps demanding fake bills pretending to get rid of fake news which are actually designed to make us less free.) And no, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with wanting to make one's country great. Unfortunately that campaign ended up building more layers of propaganda in multiple countries as the cult of personality (so popular in China and many other countries, like ours) built up around Trump. Then of course so many felt the need to take him down even though a lot of what he's doing is quite reasonable - I mostly know from looking at the surface of things. It's hard to dig deeply into the politics of a country not my own even though I lived in both Hawaii (as a kid) and Texas (in later life) for several years. As for Dingo boy in my OP, I found out he wears that ugly mask because he's received so many death threats from people who BELIEVE Islam is JUST FINE - but they too only look at the surface of things. As for Islam, it's not only a crock but an evil one, in which everyone is told to kill everyone but Muslims, then only the 'right' kind of Muslim which does not include women who've devoted their lives to it.