Post by @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

2026-09-13 18:15 UTC

@mattwebbdev@veganism.social I appreciate that not everyone can do physically demanding (or otherwise risky) activism and I didn't mean to imply that you were a liberal but I fear that the human-centric approach has a tendancy to attract liberals because it is quite compatible with a reformist attitude - if all you have to do is make different consumer choices then you don't need to endorse more extreme antispeciesist action. But when we bake the perspective of the victim into the message from the start there is no way to twist it or coopt it because the focus is always on the immediate harm and how those systems can be dismantled rather than how those systems profit or disadvantage humans. #Vegan #Veganism #Liberalism #Veganarchism #DirectAction #Antispeciesism #HumanSupremacy #Recuperation

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@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social 2026-09-13 18:21

@mattwebbdev@veganism.social Your intro post read to me as you drawing a line between yourself and the "pushy vegan" a stererotype which in actuality is the vegan that insists on ethical red lines and makes it clear to others. I took offense because the direct approach does get more pushback it has been very socially costly and I think its counterproductive to kind of denounce the kind of direct outreach vegans like me do when its already so hard.

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@mattwebbdev@veganism.social 2026-09-13 18:27

@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social I absolutely love what you said here. You've got a great point about my tone appearing/sounding(?) to fall in line with a human-centric tone. I can't disagree at all there, and I believe I have work to do on that. I never made that connection with liberals and that tone regarding veganism; I think I was too busy ranting about how the ones in the US are a false opposition party of shitbird neoliberals who might as well be putting pride flags on the bombs we drop globally. Thank you for pointing that out; there's always room for learning no matter old we get. As a consumer, my food choices are roughly 90% wfpb from a local farmers coop that is surprisingly cheap. The other 10% is processed stuff that I don't know how to make on my own (yet). The upside of being poor is I am forced to be very conscious of who will get my money, and that is reflected in non-food item purchases as well.

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