2026-10-17 01:13 UTC
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@XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 2026-10-17 02:11
I’d turn that right back around on you. Why not take lessons from those things? Fossil fuels have done horrible damage to the environment and factory automation has caused major labor relations problems in certain countries. But do you know what they both also have in common with AI? The problems OVERWHELMINGLY come from the top 1% wealthiest people/companies using them. Climate change is not caused by individuals. Individuals using 3D printers/automation are not the ones causing labor issues. And people using AI individually are not the issue. It’s the companies. And in fact in both of those situations as well REFUSING to use the technology at all only harms you and your movement. 3D printing can help individual people deal with a few massive factories monopolizing basic things and wiping out the infrastructure we need to make things locally. Refusing to use fossil fuels at all only leads to personal economic issues because society is so structured around them you can’t avoid it realistically. Then AI is causing these open source projects to be bombarded with new code submissions to the point the only possible way they can keep functioning is to use that very AI to try and sort through it all. The lessons are that the ones we should be fighting are the rich. Policing the actions of individuals is a losing battle and counter productive.
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@auzy1@lemmy.world 2026-10-17 02:43
It’s a completely different conversation because I’ve never heard of AI slop referred to in that context imho (but thats my opinion). And, I completely agree… But, the problem is, that actually gives other platforms a HUGE competitive advantage, and it gives hackers a huge advantage too
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@glibg10b@lemmy.zip 2026-10-18 04:40
Why is it an entirely different conversation? Or rather, why do you think that this conversation is not what the AI-opposition are concerned about? (At least some of us are) Here are some quotes from the article we all know we’re talking about: Torvalds expects contributors to use well-funded chatbot coding Kernel maintainers are complaining they’re drowning in slop. Torvalds’ answer is: less people, more chatbots! Torvalds said he is not trying to push non-chatbot users out of the project. But there’s already so much slop code and so many slop procedures that his actions don’t match these words. These are just from the first few opening paragraphs. I could keep going. Now here are some of the top Lemmy comments: The most disappointing aspect of using AI on linux, to me, is that it sort of implies linux is now more comfortable with the “move fast and break things” -mindset, now caring more about “efficiency” and “speed” rather than integrity and quality. Its really sad, Linus used to be a champion of open source and now hes doing his best to ruin it. Linus is a traitor to Open Source community. Using and promoting a tool created by stealing the works of thousands of developers, artists etc. He might be a good programmer but he is a fucking douchebag. So yes, the AI opposition absolutely is concerned with the maintainers welcoming slop into the codebase. This is why we needed someone like @auzy1@lemmy.world to step in and make a post clarifying the situation.