@innocentzero@social.tchncs.de @cwebber@social.coop One of the things I consistently see in these discussion is a conflation of "is cheap to run now" with "scales". This evening, when I pushed a bit more on this, the point that I got to is that people using and running this infrastructure don't seem to expect the network to grow a lot; they seem to think that it has basically reached the order of magnitude that it will be for the foreseeable future. I think this is a fine position to take, and I agree with them that things like relays and jetstreams will remain relatively affordable to run at even 10x the current network size. But this is at odds with the more aggressive boosters who treat this as the way to build all social applications going forward. If you think atproto will support a collection of applications that are, in aggregate, 10x the current size, sure, community infrastructure will continue to be cheap to run and the large amounts of data *someone* has to ingest for your small app or community is fine. If you think it will get to Twitter size (100x), I think you are probably wrong about this. If you think it will get to Facebook size, no way.