@yildo@cosocial.ca I get your perspective. I am ok with audiovisual or app assistance but I'm totally turned off by any gamification or ads! For meditation! I used to get some peace of mind infusions from On Being & another podcast that's no more. I searched various peaceful sounding keywords ("mindfulness" or whatever) & I was floored when a supposed meditation podcast would begin with "announcer voice" self promotions and ad reads. Lolol. Marketing is everything. Inescapable.