@BigJackBrass@social.vivaldi.net I’m comparing the foldy phone or a refurbished mini 13 for 1/10th the price Or maybe a titanium 15 pro which I guess was the smallest “big” phone they made? And has a macro camera And again refurbished. If apple didn’t shred 1/4 million working phones a year there’d be a lot more cheap used iPhones on the market to chose from