Post by @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works

@vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works

2026-10-08 22:22 UTC

My point is moreso that while the modern US is at best fascist aligned at worst outright fascistic the first 50 years or so fall into the same category as Rome, the Carolingian empire, or Babylon wherein it was far enough in the past that our modern descriptions don’t quite work due to just how different the world was. For context it wasn’t until the latter half of those first 50 years that steam power starts to refine enough to be usable let alone viable. I try to caution inflicting modernism unto the past and that includes describing ideologies and tendencies that at the time didn’t exist, because you get weirdness like how Julius Caesar was technically to the left of Mamdani when it came to food distribution and rent increases for context Caesar stopped the collection of rent outright and gave out free grain in quantities enough to feed a family.

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@Doomsider@lemmy.world 2026-10-08 22:32

The modern US is clearly neofascist, but did have strong fascist roots as well. Hitler based the final solution on the genocide of the Native Americans. US industrialists like Ford bankrolled the Nazi and Italian Fascist empires. He even went so far as to build factories in Germany and let them keep them and all the profits. US companies such as IBM gave material support to the Nazi helping with the census of Jews and the logistics of sending them to the death camps. I find it funny that you caution against bringing modernism to the past, but then bring up a lot of ancient history to link to present time. Obviously, we view all history through a modern lens. This is a good thing though because it lets us see past the bullshit rhetoric and propaganda like liberty and freedom for what they really were.

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